Pro Evolution Soccer 4 (PS2/XB)

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    • Ich find 7 International genial... zock ich fast taeglich..

      Muss aber sagen dass ich ja erst vor kurzem eher durch Zufall 'bekehrt' wurde. Als ich damals in Tokyo war kam Winning Eleven 7 International gerade raus und alle kauften das wie bekloppt, da hab ich mir gedacht 'Nimms auch mal mit, muss ja irgendwas dran sein' :D

    • Ach ja dein Tokyo Tagebuch das ich verschlungen habe...klasse bericht :)

      Für meinen Teil finde We7 Int geht in die falsche Richtung. Viel zu schnelle Pässe und Reaktionen der Spieler. Andauernd irgendwelche Trikotzupfer,Hinfaller,Stolperer..nervt gewaltig! Leider sieht das bei We8 nicht anders aus,wenn man nach den videos urteilt....schade :( Na ja dir wirds bestimmt gefallen :)

    • Erste Impressionen von einem IGN Freelancer aus dem Evo-Web Forum:

      I got WE8 minutes ago!!!!!!!!! I'll be writing full hands-on impressions for IGN tonight I hope, but here's some quick stuff.

      The feel is the same yet very different. Presentation is all new. the fonts, the backgrounds, etc all new. Much better than before. Everythings in japanese though, so even if you knew WE7I inside out, you'll have some problems to understand what the new options are. And theres loads of them. The main menu has big icons with englis text (League, Exhibition, Options etc) which you scroll left or right. Nice. FAST loading times too.
      You CAN change player names, stadium and cup names right away and I think you can also mess around the team strategies without buying it in the WE Shop.

      I've played three matches so far. Compared to WE7I you can dribble easier, you dont lose the abll right away..skill players are pretty good at getting around players.

      Individual animations!!! Noticeable with Ronaldo, Becks and Raul (I played with Madrid)

      Pretty out of date teams since it takes 8 weeks to get approval. So no Samuel in Real, which tells you where we are at. However the rosters are larger and I was able to load up a large amount of English names from my WE7I save. I just noticed switching players from team to team is VERY easy. In the edit menyu there's a separate option for it and you just click a payer, then select the team you want him and he's there...no need to scroll around for an empty slot where to insert him!!!

      The presentation and cut-scenes during gameplay dont interfere with the gamepaly at all, they really help make the athmospere better. When you shoot a goal kick

      Ok back to playing...

      some photos I snapped to prove this -> scene.org/~riot/WE8


      [...]

      The English teams are as follows:
      Arsenal, Aston Villa, Birmingham, Blackburn, Bolton, Charlton, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Leeds, the team that Dabizas plays in (sorry), Liverpool, Man City, Man United (with Eagles!), Middlesborough, Newcastle, Portsmouth, Southampton, Tottemham, team that has luzhny and Ganea...isnt that all of the premiership?

      I dont have time to take photos etc explain everything. Suffice to say, based on two matches, the gameplay is superb. A bit slower pace, ball feels heavier, none of the messed up speed differentials that were in WE7I Jap and also the stats seem pretty good (ie. Kleberson and Edu are much better)

      The kits look good enough atleast on AC Milan and Real.

      The player models are great! Much more round than before and the faces are much improved both in modeling, textures and animation.

      [...]

      About the new dribbles...to be honest, I dont know how to do them yet...I've seen some nice individual animations on Ronaldo, but as for the new tricks I dunno how to do them yet...the pratice mode is Extensive with loads of tips on how to do everything complete with examples so I'm gonna have to check that out in more in-depth.

      There IS a lot of different animations for moves..so not everyone crosses in the same way...some players lean back, some like Ronaldo pass more on their outer sole of the foot (which looks really cool, just like he did at Euro 2004).

      Based on about 7 years of playing the series I'd have to say I've never had had this good first impression on the game...like in WE7I in the ball's bouncing off players and difficult to dribble things caught my eye, but in WE8 nothing feels wrong..but that's after 6 matches. The ball physics are great...as is the player movement. Like in WE7I you can cause free-kicks by just running into players without using X or a tackle. But it feels really right here whereas in WE7I it was a bit uneven.

      Heading is improved over WE7I too.

      I've tried long pass methods 1 and 5. Now with 1 you can centre the ball quite accurately. The Short passing seems more accurate too, actually a whole lot more accurate.

      The players faces look really, really good. Scholesy looks incredible. Also the jerseys get dirties (socks and shorts so far) and it looks great. Also there are creases in the shirt textures and small bits like that.

      The AI feels really good...the centrebacks seem better, they didnt get out of position that bad. You can also control the keeper by pressing L1 and Triangle, when you do that you can control him fullly, so I tried that in a one on one situation and it worked great!

      Trading players into other teams is SO painless now. Just click on a team, then player, then the team you want him in and thats' it. The empty slots are automatically filled. None of this pain in the ass scroll down, find empty slot etc crap.

    • die Spielergesichter sehen richtig gut aus. Die Serie scheint jetzt auch noch grafische einen grossen Sprung zu machen obwohl ich die Grafik immer schon sehr gut fand....freue mich riesig auf das Game.
      Hank von Helvete: "The ass is the most beautiful part of the human body, but still there is a lot of shit coming out of it"

      XBL Gamertag: bbstevieb

    • Weitere Hilfen fuer alle WE8 Importeure :)





      1- 2nd Dribbling
      2- Line Positioning
      3- Side Players
      4- Center Players

      5- Home Team
      6- Conclude Settings
      7- Change Members
      8- Formation
      9- Team Settings
      10-Tactic Settings
      11-Individual Settings
      12-Kickers/Captain
      13-Quick Settings
      14-Stock
      15-Control Explanations

      Und hier Erklaerungen fuer viele Menu Bilder die ihr unter plump.se/Menus/ finden koennt:

      DSC00004.JPG: Mode select - league - start / data load
      DSC00005.JPG: Mode select - Cup - start / data load
      DSC00006.JPG: Edit mode - Create and edit player (i think) / member edit / team edit / number edit / stadium edit / league edit / save data / exit
      DSC00007.JPG: Edit mode - editing the player
      DSC00008.JPG: Edit mode - still editing the same player
      DSC00011.JPG: Edit mode - member edit - National team / club team
      DSC00012.JPG: Edit mode - Austrian team - Flag.Emblem / Supporter color (no idea what this is) / Stadium / Uniform home and away
      DSC00013.JPG: Edit mode - only 2 highlighted: Formation / uniform
      DSC00014.JPG: League edit - International league
      DSC00015.JPG: Save data - option file / edit data utility
      DSC00016.JPG: Option file - Auto save / Option file save / Option file load / WE series data load
      DSC00017.JPG: Save data - Memory card slot (in red) - Load / cancel
      DSC00018.JPG: Mode select - WE data / Key Configuration / Cursor / Sound / Museum / WE shop / Screen
      DSC00019.JPG: Mode select - WE data - option file / save data copy / save data
      DSC00020.JPG: same as DSC00016.JPG
      DSC00021.JPG: Key Configuration (u know the basic key configs so im just goin to translate the bottom ones) - Long pass mode / Lob shot 2 / Manual pass / Manual short pass
      DSC00022.JPG: Sound (who cares )
      DSC00023.JPG: Museum - League and cup data / replay / Closet
      DSC00024.JPG: WE shop - original dribble challenge / free training stadium / exhibition stadium / stadium (prolly edit name) / ball type / ball effect / 6 star difficulty (doh )
      DSC00025.JPG: WE shop - not sure about the first one / Camera type (player) / camera type (sky) / BGM / Stadium / team (prolly classic) / players (prolly classic again)
      DSC00026.JPG: We shop (last 4 coz i continuing from previous pic) - Edit hairstyle / Edit goal performance (whats this ) / ML league (prolly editing the ML league name) / ML point (maybe this is the free transfer, not sure though)
      DSC00027.JPG: Training mode select - free training / Situation training (?) / Challenge training / not sure bout this one / exit
      DSC00028.JPG: Training mode select (highlighted) - challenge training - start / data load
      DSC00029.JPG: Training mode - this is the same one i aint sure about in DSC00027.JPG - Rule / position / not sure
      DSC00030.JPG: Exhibition - options before u start an exhibition game like formation / scene / player (choosing sides) / key config / sound setup / mode select (prolly exit)
      DSC00031.JPG: obviously the player choosing sides
      DSC00010.JPG: same old defensive special abilities, a new one is added - Sliding

    • Für alle die die mal den Unterschied zwischen WE7 Int und WE8 sehen möchten:

      WE7 Int: demoplanet.turtled.com/index.php4?menu=900&f=0!1!0!1638

      WE8: demoplanet.turtled.com/index.php4?menu=900&f=0!1!0!1639

      Was für ein Unterschied Bei 2 Playermode ist der Speed bei We7 Int noch höher :tooth:

      WE8 geht in die richtige Richtung wird ein Kanller!

      @Ray Thanks für die Übersetzung :)

    • Nur für dich Ray: Meine ersten Eindrücke vom Spiel :D

      Ein paar Vorabeindrücke:

      - Pässe langsamer,aber bis her irgendwie ungenauer
      - Spielablauf flüssiger und wird nicht mehr soviel vom com beeinflußt
      - Schnelle Spieler können jetzt endlich den langsamen Spieler davon rennen
      - Ballphysik noch besser als bei Football Kingdom und das will schon was heißen ;)
      - Viel weniger Ping - Pong Bälle. Was erstens an der neuen besseren Ballphysik liegt und zweites (ENDLICH),dass der Ball beim drücken auf die X Taste nicht emhr wegfliegt,sondern beim gegenspieler bleibt.
      - Das Dribbeln finde ich bis jetzt etwas schwieriger - will gelernt sei.
      - Endlich laufen die Mitspieler nach hinten und bleiben nicht vorne stumpf stehen. Somit ist Konterspiel sehr schwer..im gegensatz zu WE7 Int.
      - Das Stolpern der Spieler kommt selten vor und wir in den meisten Fällen sofort abgepfiffen.
      - Seit WE8 sieht das Spiel entgültig besser als Fifa aus (bis auf die Rasentexturen). Die Gesichter sehen abwartig realistisch aus :eek:
      - Kopfballverhalten um einiges verbessert. Die Spieler fliegen nicht mehr so oft am Ball vorbei,sodass man als Süieler einen vorteil hat,wenn man die R2 taste benutzt. Auch der Ball selber wird nicht mehr aus dem Strafraum an die Mittellinie geköpft.
      - Flanken erste Sahne :)
      - Com spielt nicht mehr stumpf mit der L1 plus Dreick Funktion wo man als Spieler keine Chance hatte. Überhaupt hat man das Gefühl,dass die Karten auf beiden Seiten gleich verteilt sind. (nicht nur die Karten vom schirie ;))
      - Editor :staun: Man kann so jedes Körperteil,angefangen beim kopf bis hin zu den Füssen, in der Größe verändern.
      - bis jetzt keine Ruckler!
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      negativ:

      - der Ball :würg: zum Glück gibt es nicht nur ein Ball ;)
      - Schuhe
      - Sprache: japanisch


      Ich hätte es nicht für möglich gehalten doch Konami hat es geschaft alle meine Wünsche war werden zu lassen -- Das Spiel ist der Hammer schlecht hin :love: